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    A couple of lads in the pub are in Kildare Racing Club.

    Man they have knocked it out of the park with Sonnyboyliston.

    The Ebor and the Irish St Leger now landed - and they had a serious cut at it - 16/1 in Ebor.

    don’t know what they had on for Leger

    might go to Melbourne yet

    The stuff of dreams as they say

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    Arnold returns to Beverley to a Class 4 after not going through with it in a C 6
    and as I have zero discipline I will have to double it with Countister just in case.

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    Arnold n/r

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    Good luck to all those on Countister.

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    well he's 4/1 at 6.15 - I expect that to come down if he is to win.

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    Well....I fancied 3 in the race....it's that wide open.
    The only horse today who has been punted is Red Ochre.....12's int 7's.
    I plumped with Hey Bob.
    It will be interesting to see if one gets hammered in the next 5 minutes.
    The other 2 I fancied were Monash and Rickety Gate.....There is not a penny for any of the 3.

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    I didn't realise that racing was delayed 30 minutes !!!
    Red ochre still being punted 11/2 now.

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    Well Praise The Lord - He got home at last
    even the jockey looked relieved

    hope Quixall got on - but I fear for him

    hasn't been seen since he got that invite to afternoon tea at Buckingham Palace - with cucumber sandwiches, scones and clotted cream

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    Well done lads.

    I left it alone at 3/1, hope yiz all got on at bigger prices earlier.

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    Doubt QC was on, but hopefully the missus was.

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    How sad to see the premium journal of an industry degenerate to this level of Ďjournalismí

    The fear of treading on the toes of itís paymasters is palpable - just tragic.


    Robbie Wilders- Racing Post

    Few regular horseracing bettors have not been affected by stake restrictions in some capacity. If you bet on the sport frequently and have never encountered issues placing a bet I would prescribe a strategy rethink.

    Stake limitations are a necessary measure for bookmakers controlling liabilities and not exposing themselves to customers destined to prosper in the long term.

    However, they need not disillusion punters. I have landed most of my biggest wins ante-post and although personal restrictions are prevalent for the firms I bet with, there is a trick to get around it.

    Take the Richard Hughes-trained Brentford Hope, who I recently backed at a standout 100-1 for the QEII Stakes on Qipco British Champions Day in October.

    The strong-travelling quirky son of Camelot can be lethal on a galloping track with juice in the ground, and with regular rider Jamie Spencer excelling on the straight course at Ascot I felt he could pick up the pieces late to hit the frame at a massive price.

    I knew it would be impossible to get my full point on each-way at 100-1 in one bet slip. However, I returned to Hills a couple of days later and they laid me some more.

    Eventually, over approximately ten days, I had completed my staking. I could rest easy knowing if Brentford Hope springs a major upset I will not rue only having £3.50 each-way on and will be rewarded in line with my points system.

    The beauty of the wager is the increments were so trivial they perhaps flew under the radar of the firmís traders, and Brentford Hope remains backable at three-figure odds with Hills at the time of writing. Use that information as you wish.

    Value can often be found in a bet by shopping around
    Value can often be found in a bet by shopping around
    Mark Harvey

    Exercise a modicum of patience and you will eventually get your full stake on at (hopefully) the price you seek, with bookmakers stretching their parameters as market liquidity increases.

    Betfair Sportsbook and Paddy Powerís amalgamation in 2016 and gradual morphing into two almost identical platforms is also excellent news for punters.

    In 99 times out of 100 their odds and place terms are in unison, with the most noticeable differential in the respective interfaces being one is gold and one is green.

    Through my own experience it seems the two firms offer the chance to strike the same ante-post wager 24 hours after the first bet has been placed.

    This uniform pricing approach means you can in theory speed up the staking process two-fold. I was restricted to £8.30 each-way on Aidan OíBrienís unbeaten juvenile Luxembourg for the Royal Lodge at Newmarket this month at 12-1 with both firms, although I was theoretically able to get my cash on twice as quickly.

    These examples focus on ante-post betting, but similar sentiments apply to backing horses the day before a race. It is worth returning on raceday to top up your initial stake if you have been knocked back previously.

    You have to be in it to win it, though, and it never ceases to amaze me when I speak to bettors who admit to only investing with one firm.

    Creating new accounts is merely a mundane administrative task. It takes little brain power and is a fundamental procedure if you strive to find value through discrepancies between bookmaker opinion.

    If you solely bet online with Betfred and a horse you like is trading at 8-1 with that firm but 10-1 or bigger elsewhere, you are directly weakening your bottom line due to laziness and incomprehensible blind loyalty.

    I understand a significant number of punters consider themselves casual followers of the sport and fear becoming consumed by the pursuit of churning out a profit.

    However, at the very least it is worth making the effort to set up multiple accounts, keeping money in each and not resorting to placing poor-value bets.

    It is not even hard work Ė it is smart work. If you are reading this in the knowledge you only bet with one company online I hope my words might trigger a change in philosophy.

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    That Samphire Coast I've been on about runs in the 8:00 at Kempton tomorrow...

    18/1 into 9/1 with Paddy Power within a few hours...

    Bet 365 go 14/1 but they won't pay out on 4th....

    Hopefully it drifts back out tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamblor View Post
    That Samphire Coast I've been on about runs in the 8:00 at Kempton tomorrow...
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    That is it's last 12 form figs - has won 8 out of 60 and come down well in ratings now.

    Was there some run in particular that marked out to you? Thanks.

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    It's form at Kempton in better races and off much higher marks.

    The massive prices in its last few races also caught my eye.

    Disappinted with the price today, havent even backed it yet.

    Hopefully it drifts out to 20/1 at least.

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    Not tonight Gamblor
    but I think there might be a race in it alright

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    Nah, its dead to me.

    Sorry if anyone was dumb enough to waste a euro on that.

    QC, where the fuck are you bro?

    We need you.

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    Nipper....I agree with you. The horse travelled smoothly and 2 furlongs out had a chance.
    Myself...I didn't think the jockey gave the horse a hard time and was happy to finish just in behind the frontrunners.
    Maybe, they are waiting for the right race at a big price.
    If and when thy bet it, conditions and class of opposition have to be right.
    I think they are looking for a class 6 , carrying 9 stone and plenty of horses on long losing runs.
    You have to make sure you finish in the top 3 as if you have a very large bet, you want your money back...at the least.

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    Here is my sporting Yankee for today:

    In Ayr going for Billy Garrity in the two cups and in Belmont Charlie Appleby’s two runners - even with Spencer up. Good Luck.

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